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		<title>By: JRFDD</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m feeling your pain.  I went three years without being able to sit down without excruciating pain!  You can do it, I did it.  But it does suck!  I was a college student so I had to get stand up desks, I couldn&#039;t drive and had to get rides from people who had vehicles that I could lay down in or ride the bus so I could stand, no eating at restaurants, the list goes on and on and most people have no idea how much it changes your life.  You are right you cannot put your life on hold, but you can work out accommodations.

I discovered on my own that if I walked a lot (came about naturally since it is non-sitting transportation) it lessened the pain to where I could sit some.  By a lot, I mean I was walking 3-5 miles a day.  I also bought bench type seats that I could sit on by balancing on my thighs.  I was tested thoroughly and nothing else showed up and no other therapies made any different. In the end docs decided that it was a focal pain from fibromyalgia.  I started treatment for fibromyalgia (I primarily credit walking and myofacial release therapy) and things got better.  Eventually I was able to quit walking so much without the pain coming back.  In your case I would make sure I worked with a good chiropractor if you haven&#039;t already, get checked for fibromyalgia, and in the mean while walk and ice the area where the L4-L5 disc is (Ice reduces pain, reduces swelling, and increases blood flow to the area thus speeds healing.  Just remember tissue can be damaged if it is iced to long (repeat as often as possible, 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off).

So it may not even be the bulged disc that is causing your problem.  My husband had three back fusions and we learned from the first (which we had not choice on as his disc completely ruptured and his spinal cord was exposed and compromised) that with the after effects of such a surgery you want to make sure that the situation is dire before you resort to one.  Even if I still wasn&#039;t able to sit I would work around it rather than get a fusion from what I saw him go through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m feeling your pain.  I went three years without being able to sit down without excruciating pain!  You can do it, I did it.  But it does suck!  I was a college student so I had to get stand up desks, I couldn&#8217;t drive and had to get rides from people who had vehicles that I could lay down in or ride the bus so I could stand, no eating at restaurants, the list goes on and on and most people have no idea how much it changes your life.  You are right you cannot put your life on hold, but you can work out accommodations.</p>
<p>I discovered on my own that if I walked a lot (came about naturally since it is non-sitting transportation) it lessened the pain to where I could sit some.  By a lot, I mean I was walking 3-5 miles a day.  I also bought bench type seats that I could sit on by balancing on my thighs.  I was tested thoroughly and nothing else showed up and no other therapies made any different. In the end docs decided that it was a focal pain from fibromyalgia.  I started treatment for fibromyalgia (I primarily credit walking and myofacial release therapy) and things got better.  Eventually I was able to quit walking so much without the pain coming back.  In your case I would make sure I worked with a good chiropractor if you haven&#8217;t already, get checked for fibromyalgia, and in the mean while walk and ice the area where the L4-L5 disc is (Ice reduces pain, reduces swelling, and increases blood flow to the area thus speeds healing.  Just remember tissue can be damaged if it is iced to long (repeat as often as possible, 20 minutes on, 20 minutes off).</p>
<p>So it may not even be the bulged disc that is causing your problem.  My husband had three back fusions and we learned from the first (which we had not choice on as his disc completely ruptured and his spinal cord was exposed and compromised) that with the after effects of such a surgery you want to make sure that the situation is dire before you resort to one.  Even if I still wasn&#8217;t able to sit I would work around it rather than get a fusion from what I saw him go through.</p>
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		<title>By: malwilhist</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No--you need to go to a chiropractor that also has massage therapy and physical therapy, as well as occupational therapy. All of those combined should take care of the problem. 90 percent of back surgeries are unnecessary, and you are not even close to an ideal candidate for surgery.

 If you think a pain in your right butt cheek sucks, try radiating pain, along with numbness down your left leg and into your toes along with into your butt cheek and around to the front of your hip...and I&#039;m not a surgery candidate... and I DO have neurological symptoms. I am a TON better since I have begun to see a chiropractor several times per week, have been doing traction therapy, along with physical therapy, e-stim. I also get a massage (insurance does cover it since it is through the physical therapist/chiropractor&#039;s office) twice a week. The pain and numbness is nearly gone now. I herniated the L5 disc in May of 08, did PT starting in June of 08 thru March of 09, as well as saw an occupational therapist regularly in that time. That person taught me to do the things that I was doing regularly in a more correct manner--turns out I was bending and lifting and moving incorrectly my whole life and never knew it. I stopped until August of 09 because it was better, reherniated it in August  of 09, and am now doing the Chiro/PT/Massage  combo and it&#039;s working for me. 

So, I don&#039;t think you need the surgery--you don&#039;t seem to have that big of an issue. Surgery tends to make things worse. I&#039;ve done a lot of reading on the subject, and it tends to cause neurological symptoms. You wouldn&#039;t want those added to your plate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8211;you need to go to a chiropractor that also has massage therapy and physical therapy, as well as occupational therapy. All of those combined should take care of the problem. 90 percent of back surgeries are unnecessary, and you are not even close to an ideal candidate for surgery.</p>
<p> If you think a pain in your right butt cheek sucks, try radiating pain, along with numbness down your left leg and into your toes along with into your butt cheek and around to the front of your hip&#8230;and I&#8217;m not a surgery candidate&#8230; and I DO have neurological symptoms. I am a TON better since I have begun to see a chiropractor several times per week, have been doing traction therapy, along with physical therapy, e-stim. I also get a massage (insurance does cover it since it is through the physical therapist/chiropractor&#8217;s office) twice a week. The pain and numbness is nearly gone now. I herniated the L5 disc in May of 08, did PT starting in June of 08 thru March of 09, as well as saw an occupational therapist regularly in that time. That person taught me to do the things that I was doing regularly in a more correct manner&#8211;turns out I was bending and lifting and moving incorrectly my whole life and never knew it. I stopped until August of 09 because it was better, reherniated it in August  of 09, and am now doing the Chiro/PT/Massage  combo and it&#8217;s working for me. </p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t think you need the surgery&#8211;you don&#8217;t seem to have that big of an issue. Surgery tends to make things worse. I&#8217;ve done a lot of reading on the subject, and it tends to cause neurological symptoms. You wouldn&#8217;t want those added to your plate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reno r</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surgery is normally a last resort fix for this type of injury.  It is possible the surgery is unsuccessful and can make the problem worse.  I&#039;ve had back pain since I was in my early 20&#039;s caused by either lifting weights or lifting something improperly.  It is frustrating but usually it can be treated with therapy and a chiropractor.  A lot of times insurance won&#039;t cover this type of surgery if it isn&#039;t necessary as determined by a physician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surgery is normally a last resort fix for this type of injury.  It is possible the surgery is unsuccessful and can make the problem worse.  I&#8217;ve had back pain since I was in my early 20&#8242;s caused by either lifting weights or lifting something improperly.  It is frustrating but usually it can be treated with therapy and a chiropractor.  A lot of times insurance won&#8217;t cover this type of surgery if it isn&#8217;t necessary as determined by a physician.</p>
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